Virgin America, Domestic First Class – Airbus A 320: Los Angeles to San Francisco

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11 Replies to “Virgin America, Domestic First Class – Airbus A 320: Los Angeles to San Francisco”

  1. I would have though a small sandwich, perhaps on a croissant or focaccia would be more appropriate at that departure time for something marketed as First Class. With so many choices on the LAX-SFO route, it’s tough to see what extra value VX offers compared to any competitor – purple lighting I guess… I would think the snack quality and a full drink would be just about the only differentiator one has on this route.

  2. Even with the amount of money you pay for a first class seat I would not expect even a small meal on a one hour flight.

    1. I flew on a Japan Airlines domestic flight from NRT to ITM in First Class last month. Despite the flight being only 45 minutes in the air, they offered a drink after take-off, followed by a full 3-course 1-tray dinner that was absolutely superb. They followed this with tea or coffee, cleverly given in takeout-style cups as we were already descending.

      US airlines are cash-strapped and lazy, and the staff are very often extremely rude. I have the severe misfortune of flying on Delta domestic F every month or so, and it’s always a disgrace.

  3. In the 70’s I flew PA, SFO-LAX on a 747 and a full breakfast was served in ECONOMY class.
    I kid you not.

    1. Hi Jim

      Thanks for commenting. That really does seem hard to imagine these days. It’s pretty much the same in Europe. Most airlines serve so little nowadays that even a packet of stale Pretzels feels like a luxury in Economy Class! Then again, the prices for tickets have gone down as well, and as they say, you get what you pay for.

      Cheers,
      William

  4. I’m not entirely certain why anyone needs something more than a very light snack on a 45 minute flight

    1. I’m not sure why people feel that need for a full meal either and want to compare what other airlines in Europe or Japan do as opposed to the US airlines 🙄. Take off to landing is 50-60 minutes. The expectation is that the crew fling the tray at them and yank those trays from them when the captain says prepare for landing. 50 -60 minutes from take off to landing is not a lot of time. Now if it’s over an hour then maybe sure why not. I’ve talked to crews who’ve told me how insane and rushed they had to be to prep the meals “fling” them and collect everything AND stow everything before that plane touches down. They weren’t lazy, the whole thing was ridiculous just like the people calling the crews lazy without having any knowledge of how a full service would be realistically on such a short flight. I’ve done that route before and it’s consistently 54-55 minutes gate to gate. The FAA mandates that all service items be collected before landing. For some reason Japan is able to do it but I kid you not, these same people complaining about wanting a 3 course meal on a 60 minute flight will be the first to complain that the service was “rushed”

      1. The point is, I think, that if other airlines *can* offer a full hot meal on a 60 minutes flight, how come these crews are stating it is borderline impossible? Obviously it is not such an impossible task as they make it out to be – other airlines can do it too. And have been for ages. No ‘flinging’ required at all.

        I do understand that if a crew is asked to cater a short flight differently than what they are used to it may be perceived as having too little time. But like anything else, with some getting used to (an a fresh perspective) I think any crew would physically be able to offer a hot meal on a 60 minute flight. And then it would only become a matter of being “willing” to.

      2. I guess you didn’t read the full comment before replying.
        The airlines in the US did offer that service up until a decade or less ago. They obviously are capable of doing it but saw NO value in continuing to do so as opposed to Airline X in X country. You’ll notice that people have landed on Asian carriers with their meal trays in front of them because the flight is too short for them to realistically offer the service but still do. That would not fly with the FAA in the US because someone wants it and thinks the crew can physically do it hence US meal service on short flights being rushed.
        If you’ve ever been on a flight in first and actually paid attention to the service when the crew start right at the 10,000 ft chime then you’d notice even the fastest crews take an hour minimum to cater to a full first class domestic cabin.
        Taking drink orders, meal preferences, making and delivering said meal preferences, offering refills while meal is being heated, playing those meals on trays, delivering those trays, re offering drinks, prepping the dessert trays, picking up meal trays and offering the desserts AND still taking requests from said people in that first class cabin. No way in hell that service wouldn’t be rushed and flung at you with a 50-60 minute flight. What you think isn’t what reality is when you actually sit down and play it out in your head. I’ve asked to be shown the carts, asked how they set up, flown in first and business enough to see it.

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